"Do not make me take this to the mats- I will. I will definitely do that, and if I win I will demand that you challenge up again." He was not above using it to get what he wanted, either.

"And yes- it is torture. Even if the other party likes it. Maybe especially if they like it." He wasn't even sure he wanted to know what those two were up to, when statements like that were being tossed about. Still, it was good to see Carlos...happy with it. Very happy with it, it seemed.